Na Na pinches her pennies

Shh… don't tell anyone I'm poor. They all think I'm living frugal and green just like everyone these days. This is a blog about a senior citizen living a frugal life, on a fixed income, in a low income food desert, and passing along knowledge from lessons learned. Some she learned from her Grandma Mama many years ago and some learned only a few days ago.

Vegan diet ain’t working for me

I’ve been sick for the last three days. I’m feeling better but still weak and laying around. I believe it was a reaction to something chemical I ate. I went vegan for a few days but it definitely isn’t going to work for me. My apologies to all the vegans who thrive on their diet. I did give it a really good try but I believe I’ll be better just eating the way we ate when I was a kid.

I bought some vegan cheeses. I forgot to check the ingredients before buying these. All of them contain too much oil and chemicals for me. I ate some on a vegan pizza and I believe that’s what made me sick.

I bought vegan milk and yogurt to try. The cashew mango yogurt had black mold inside so it got thrown away. Someone may have decided not to buy it and left it setting on a shelf where a store clerk found it and returned it to the cooler. The company is sending me a coupon for a replacement. The Silk yogurt was way too sour for my taste so I tossed it too. I wasted almost $8 buying those two. The milk didn’t taste too bad but it left an after taste in my mouth. It also contains a lot of oil.

I bought tofu and miso. I haven’t tried these yet. I’ve often wondered how miso soup tastes so maybe I’ll try them. Or maybe not. I could give them to a vegan person I know and ask her to make me a little miso soup for tasting.

I’m definitely not a vegan person. I’m going to stay with a mostly fruit and vegetable diet with a little meat and dairy. The kind of farm life diet I grew up with. Some call it the WW2 diet because of its similarities to the food shortages of that time but it could be a depression era diet as well. However; I’ll continue to read the book for ways to eat more fruits and veggies without the vegan made foods.

Even before trying the vegan diet I felt as if I’d already given up all bad food indulgences. I know the dangers of factory made foods. I don’t drink anything except water and sometimes flavor it with lemon powder. I indulge myself a single cup of coffee about once or twice a month. I sometimes drink salt free bullion as a substitute for coffee. I quit drinking soda, tea, and juice. I limit the amount of milk I drink and its only 1% powdered milk. The only sweets I eat are homemade desserts. I cook a single serving size fruit cobbler or a single serving size egg less, oil less, milk less chocolate cake once a month.

For a really, really long time I’ve refused to eat anything artificial. “If its made in a lab it will take a lab to digest it.” I noticed many of the people switching to plant based are eating meat and dairy made from plants to replace what they’ve given up. Well, here’s where it gets tricky with those substitutions. When the factory removes something from the food it must be replaced with something else that fools the taste buds otherwise no one will eat it. They add sugars and fats and chemicals to fool your tounge. Here’s an example.

Remember margarine? It was invented during the shortages of WW2 to replace butter. Everyone thought that was a great replacement for butter until sometime in the 90s when it was discovered how really bad it was for our bodies. Well, in my personal opinion, plant based butter is just an updated version of margarine. Plant based milk, cheese, and yogurt are a little different but still contain oils and chemicals as emulsifiers. I believe that’s what made me sick all weekend.

We are expecting snow tomorrow (Tuesday) so I made a pot of Mulligan Stew. I hope the snow holds off until after the food truck distribution in the morning. I’m hoping they give fruit of some kind. Packs of frozen blueberries would be nice.

Ok, I’m going to lay down again. Stay warm and stay safe,

Anita

32 comments on “Vegan diet ain’t working for me

  1. Christina
    January 31, 2023

    I appreciate this post, because it is definitely true that not all vegan foods are automatically healthier.

    I need to eat less meat due to health reasons, but I have cut back on the processed ones. Instead we’re trying to eat more naturally vegan protein sources – like lentils and chickpeas.

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  2. Ruby
    January 27, 2023

    I am very lactose-intolerant and tried some of that vegan cheese some years back. It tasted the way dirty sneakers smell! After some experimentation, I found I could live without ice cream and eat a very small amount of extra sharp cheese once in a while.

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    • Christina
      January 31, 2023

      Ruby, I miss cheese so much!! I’ve had to really change how I eat, and have to eat a lot less meat (really hardly any) and dairy.

      I wonder if we could handle a wee bit of good lactose free cheese? I tried the Babybel plant based cheese and it was OK. But there’s absolutely no nutritional value! At least with dairy-based cheese you get a lot vitamins, calcium and protein.

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  3. Linda Practical Parsimony
    January 25, 2023

    A dietician recommended by your healthcare provider is covered by insurance, just like a doctor is covered.

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    • Anita
      January 26, 2023

      Medicare has special requirements for a patient to see a dietitian and some restrictions about seeing them more than one time Medicare also has certain requirements of the dietitian too before they pay for it. At my next NP appointment in February I’ll ask for a list of registered dietitians I can choose from. Medicare pays only 80 percent of each office visit to a doctor or dietitian and I must pay the other 20 percent each time. So its important for me to know if the dietitian accepts Medicare assignment and what my portion will be before I make an appointment. I need to work with a person who understands living on foodbanks and is not too expensive. And, is located close to my home, not 30 or 40 miles away. 🙂

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  4. Emma
    January 25, 2023

    Sorry to hear, Anita. For me, a lot of vegan foods and dishes depend on soy and my body hates soy. It’s trial by error often. Have you ever ready “The Blue Zones: 9 Lessons for Living Longer.” All the longest living people in the world have certain markers in common – fermented foods; very small amount of good quality meat as in frequently as once weekly to once annually; good quality drinking water; daily exercise; sense of community and reverence for elders; just a few. It was a good read. Hope you feel better soon.

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    • Anita
      January 25, 2023

      I haven’t read that book but our library has one copy. I put in a request for it and saw there are 5 requests ahead of me so it might take awhile. Thank you, I’m already feeling much better. I ate small portions of the Mulligan stew I made and drank lots of water.

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    • Christina
      January 31, 2023

      That books sounds very interesting. Am going to see if I can find it at my library, using the Libby app. 🙂

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  5. Debby
    January 24, 2023

    Years ago there was a book that describes blood types with a specific diet. My blood type needs meat. Not a lot but I find if I go without animal protein more than a day, I feel weak. I’m not much for fruit – mainly it doesn’t taste as good as it used to. They pick the fruit too early. Even at the farmers markets, it’s all picked too early. The best way, is to go to the farms that you pick or harvest for yourself but then again they only let you do certain rows.

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    • Anita
      January 24, 2023

      You’re so right Debby. Fruit and veggies don’t taste nearly as good as home grown or farm picked. In my opinion tomatoes are the worst tasting. The nearest you pick it farm is about an hour away from my house and the prices are very high. Its become more of an amusement park and restraunt than a farm. I do the best I can with the food truck food, discount bin finds, and the summer farmer’s markets.

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  6. Susan
    January 24, 2023

    Yeah, that’s a lot of vegan stuff to try all at once. Maybe just find one or two things at a time to try to see if they work for you. I’ve just tried eating much less meat and poultry and using beans where I can swap them. I am also sensitive to soy products, so a lot of that stuff also makes me sick. Good luck in your journey to eat healthier!

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    • Anita
      January 24, 2023

      Thank you Susan. I think I’ll be better off just eating sensibly like you do. I eat lots of beans. I home can them and always have jars of heat and eat beans on the shelves. Grandma Mama had beans on the table every single day for all meals and snacks.

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  7. Just another day on the farm
    January 24, 2023

    its always important to listen to your body on these things.

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    • Anita
      January 24, 2023

      You’re right and I will from now on.

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  8. Linda Practical Parsimony
    January 24, 2023

    The subs for real food often make me feel queasy. If I eat too many gums, or soy products, I will not feel well. Vegan cheese is gross and makes me sick. Some vegan cheese has nuts–I am allergic to nuts!

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    • Anita
      January 24, 2023

      Thanks Linda, I knew about the nuts in vegan cheese but didn’t make the connection in my mind to it might cause illness.

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  9. catherine young
    January 24, 2023

    It is my belief that the best diet is to eat less food but maintain close to one’s eating ways. Move closer to the healthier choices and start avoiding or cutting down the stuff in one’s diet thst are not good for you.

    I bought 2 20lb turkeys for 45c/lb and am roasting one tonight and cut up the other with an electric slaw. So plenty of Turkey for me. Freezers are chock full. I’ll have my fill of Turkey salad, a favorite of mine, and Turkey barley soup

    I love carbs, but work to cut down on them. I used to bake a lot of bread but now use breads sparingly as much as I like them. I remind myself always to keep portions small and less carbs in my diet.

    I broke my money “diet”. Had to buy some personal supplies, and could not resist the Turkey deal. Also went to consignment store and bought $28 of stuff. Two turtlenecks , a jacket, a long sleeve designer striped tee, rattan placemats, brand new big wooden play activity cube for baby, sheet curtains, a tiny tea set for dolls. Food not the only type of diet hard to stay on.

    I hope you find a good meal plan for yourself. One you can enjoy and also be healthier for you

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    • Anita
      January 24, 2023

      Catherine I won’t beat myself up over failing at my diet if you won’t beat yourself up over yours. 🙂 You got a great deal on those turkeys. I haven’t baked bread in almost 6 months. I’ve found discounted bread items cheaper than I could bake them at home. Plus I have cut down on how much bread I eat too. I’ve had a hankering for sour dough bread lately but I do limit myself. $28 for all those items ain’t bad at all. You got some great bargains. A brand new tiny tea set by itself sells for $28. One of my grands got a set for Christmas and that was the cost.

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  10. SC Quilter
    January 23, 2023

    Anita,
    Have you been able to speak with a registered dietitian? Maybe they can help you on your quest. They need to know your situation as far as what you are able to buy and what you have available, etc….and go from there. Your doctor can prescribe a dietitian for you since you since you are diabetic. Please look into this.
    Hubby and I went into the vegan diet route and it was not for us. We are older as he is 78 and I am 58. We both got run down really bad. Even with vitamins. This was just our experience. It works for some, but it did not work for us. We found a balance with carnivore. For some it is Keto, or Weight Watchers, or just smaller portions. But I would suggest speaking with a dietitian first because you are a diabetic and that is nothing to mess around with. I know income is limited and you have to work with what you have so let them know that.
    I send my love and blessings to you from SC. No snow here, just lots of rain!!!

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    • Anita
      January 24, 2023

      I haven’t talked with a dietitian yet. I see my RNP in February. She’s the one who knew right away why I felt so tired all the time and recommended the miracle shots for me. I’ll explain to her what I plan to do and ask for a list of referrals I can choose from. Maybe she has someone she goes to for food advice and would share their name with me. It can’t hurt to ask. Things will work out for me I’m sure. I just forgot myself for awhile but I’m back on track again. We’ve got lots of rain the last few days too. Hugs from this KY quilter.

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  11. Essie Oh
    January 23, 2023

    So sorry to hear that you are sick from switching to a vegan diet but happy to hear that you’re not going to give up on eating more fruits and vegetables. While a whole foods plant based diet can be ‘vegan’ many proponents shy away from saying it is because there are too many junk food and processed food vegans out there that aren’t any healthier than people eating the SAD diet. Whole foods- foods NOT processed and closest to their natural state (think baked potatoes vs potato chips), plant-based (mainly plants vs a meat-based diet) -WFPB denotes a much healthier diet than vegan diets that try to replace processed foods with the vegan version. You can do a whole foods plant based diet and include the occasional fish, poultry or other meats. Key to health, imho, is the elimination of all processed foods, salt, sugar and oils. Be warned- if you do give up processed foods, salt, sugar and oil, you may experience a ‘withdrawal’ of sorts because these foods are actually addicting. I hope you feel better soon!

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    • Anita
      January 24, 2023

      Thanks Essie, actually I’ve always been more of a vegetable and fruit eater. I gave up eating processed foods several years ago but forgot it when trying to lose weight. Actually the “based” part had slipped my mind. For example I forgot a soup base is not a soup; its a soup starter. So plant based means start with the plants and build a meal. Right? I think the hardest foods for me to give up would be salmon and liver.

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      • Essie Oh
        January 24, 2023

        Actually, ‘plant-based’ is confusing (great analogy with the soup starter!) Here’s Harvard Health’s description: Plant-based or plant-forward eating patterns focus on foods primarily from plants. This includes not only fruits and vegetables, but also nuts, seeds, oils, whole grains, legumes, and beans. It doesn’t mean that you are vegetarian or vegan and never eat meat or dairy. Rather, you are proportionately choosing more of your foods from plant sources.

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        • Anita
          January 24, 2023

          Ooo, I like that description! Thank you for sending it Essie. It sounds just like the way I eat.

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      • Linda Practical Parsimony
        January 25, 2023

        Why would you give up salmon and liver? They are both good for a body.

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        • Anita
          January 26, 2023

          But I’m not giving those up Linda. I only gave up eating those when I tried the vegan diet which requires a person to NOT eat any meat or any dairy products including liver and salmon. Now that I realize the vegan diet won’t work for my body I’m back to eating as I always have including liver and salmon.

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  12. Selena
    January 23, 2023

    Vegan eating real food is one thing. Vegan, eating “hey, we can make a non-vegan food vegan” is another IMHO. I think you’re far better off eating as you state – fruits, veggies, easy on the dairy/meat.
    Do take care!
    Side note – has anyone heard from SilverYew? I worry about her.

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    • Anita
      January 24, 2023

      Thanks Selena, I should have listened to you before but now I’m back on track. A few months ago Silver told me she was fine but needed to break from writing her blog for personal reasons. I know she is still doing ok when she “likes” one of my blog posts. She “liked” this one.

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  13. Debby
    January 23, 2023

    Unless a person has an allergy, eating from all four food groups and limiting sugar and processed foods makes the most sense to me. I don’t eat a lot of meat, but I do eat recommended servings of protein. I don’t buy any foods that are labeled “ light” because they either contain more water, or more sweetener. I think you are wise to quit the vegan plan.

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    • Anita
      January 24, 2023

      Thank you Debby. My desire to lose weight clouded my mind. I had already given up eating processed foods but forgot my own food rules.

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  14. Linda in NE
    January 23, 2023

    Eating vegan should mean forgoing meat, eggs, dairy. Not eating lab made substitutes. I’ll stick with real, natural food. Chemicals and fake food are not our friends.

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    • Anita
      January 24, 2023

      I totally agree with you Linda in NE I do my best to eat as natural as I’m able. When I bought those foods I had forgotten my own number one food rule. Never eat a food my grandma mama wouldn’t recognize.

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